216 Doesn't Really Matter

Hey, let's start with a Mat telling a long story (it's worth it ;-) ). Then Phill recaps his relationship and how being a bit of a hacker related to that. Mom relates to his situation. She talks about a bike trip she took to Montana. Her and a friend also plan a trip to Canada. She also decides to move back to Oregon, she's behind on her house payment and may be in trouble. And to end it, let's hear another story from Mat about his roommates at the time (this one's worth it too).